Web Development vs Web Design

[dvduval]

I personally deal with web design for applications all the time. For example, a customer needs a design for an ecommerce application, directory, forum, blog, cms, etc. Most applications these days have templating systems and/or instructions on integrating the design with the templates.

I got in a discussion with someone that felt that integrating design with applications was web development, not web design.

In my point of view, the word "design" in and of itself is artwork, but not integration. But when you place the term "web" before it, you now are talking about using HTML at the very least, right?

So I'm curious, do you feel that "web design" by definition includes integration with web applications? And also, do you do this type o
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[Fangore]

To me, design is 'what the eye can see'. This meaning the template and every graphical part. However, in some applications, this requires coding knowledge so i think that design and coding cannot live without eachother.